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October 25, 2016
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After today's snippet I was curious so I attempted to compile a list of known Hyperions:

Sun Wu Kung (Journey to the West)

Duquesne (Lensman and Skylark series)

K/Oasis Abrams (Kim Possible)

Sherlock Holmes

Superman

Captain America

Slippery Jim (Stainless Steel Rat)

Giles Habibula (Cometeers)

Hannibal Gunn (From one of Spoor's other books I think)

The Doctor (Doctor Who)

Dave Strider (Homestuck? I think there's another reference to Homestuck in snippet 11.)

Buffy Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

Erision (UE Chronicles)

Captain Kirk (Star Trek)

Maria-Susanna (Modeled after Hyperion designer, inserted in the Star Trek simulation)

Honor Harrington (Honorverse)

Pevensie children? (Lion, Witch, Wardrobe)

Velocity Celes (?)

Herc (Hercules?)

Gilbert (Pandora Hearts maybe? Although I like to imagine Gil Grissom from CSI in Hyperion)

 

I'm sure there's more I missed.

October 26, 2016
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Hm, I'm not sure where you found the clue about the Pevensies.

The two parts of "Velocity Celes" can be translated as "Speed Racer".

Gilbert is a reference to Gilbert Gosseyn, from A.E. Van Vogt's Null-A series. As his last name is pronounced "Go-SANE", him going INsane is a specific irony.

 

Yes, Dave Strider is from Homestuck; the other Homestuck reference is the four children fighting alongside the gray-skinned, orange-horned alien children (the "Trolls" of Homestuck)

 

Hannibal Gunn is from a story I expect to write one day but haven't yet. Well, I wrote parts of it in a fanfic but it'll be rather different in the main universe version.

October 26, 2016
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Ryk E. Spoor said
Hm, I'm not sure where you found the clue about the Pevensies.

It was a guess regarding the "four children in strange costumes" fighting alongside the Homestuck kids. Clearly I guessed wrong!

December 12, 2016
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  Name Nickname, Alias World Hair Eyes Outfit Weapons Other notes Status Researcher
*1 Marc Duquesne "Blackie" Skylark/E.E Smith Black Black     Extreme intellegence, heavy-world rearing, possible intuition ability Alive, Arena Timothy J Bryson
#2 Sun Wu Kung, the Monkey King Wu Journey to the West Red-Black, unruly Green-gold gold, red, Purple Robes Bo chung, Claws Tail, gold-brown fur, fangs, excellent sense of smell Alive, Arena  
*3 Kim Possible K, Oasis Abrams Kim Possible show Red Green "cute"   Retreated inside herself?? (Loc 649 SOH) Alive, Arena  
*4 Maria Susanna Marilyn Shoshana None/Star Trek Late Add Golden/Blonde Blue??     Insane ("Broke")? loved <Jim Kirk?> Alive, Arena Maria Condette Gambino
5 Speed Racer Velocity Celes Speed Racer show Presumed Black         Alive, Solar System  
6 James Bolivar diGriz Slippery Jim, The Stainless Steel Rat           Killed, post GCA  
*7 Erision Eris Unreality Effect(f) Indigo   Ebon skin   One of the five Dead, Hyperion  
*8 Tarellimade Shantrakar Tarell ?? Sim Universe (f)         One of the five, elven (?) Dead, Hyperion Jasin
9 Clark Kent Superman DC Comics Dark   Red& Blue   Flight Dead, Hyperion  
10 Steve Rogers (?) Captain America Marvel Comics Blonde (?)   Red, White, & Blue Shield   Dead, Hyperion  
11 Hercules Herc Greek Legend         Catatonic on revelation    
12 Gilbert Gosseyn Gilbert AE Van Vogt's Null-A         Insane on revelation    
13 Sherlock Holmes Sherlock Sir Arthur Conan Doyle     Victorian Dressing gown Pistol Cluttered Apartment, pattern of bullet holes    
14 James T Kirk Jim Star Trek     Gold uniform (?)   Loved by Maria-Susanna? Dead, Hyperion  
15 James Bond 007 James Bond franchise Dark   impeccably tailored suit Killed by Oasis, enemy was Bluefield or Spector or similar? Dead, Hyperion  
16 Clark Savage Doc, the Man of Bronze Doc Savage              
17 Buffy Summers The Vampire Slayer Buffy/Whedon Blonde     Wooden stake Facing a vampire    
18 Honor Harrington The Salamander Honor Harrington Dark Haired   Beret & Eyepatch   Saluted by Kirk? Real or not?    
19 Doctor Who x18 The Doctor Doctor Who Varies Varies Varies   All different and all the same, Tardis    
20 Dave Strider   Homestruck     Strange costumes   Fighting alongside grey-skinned, orange-horned child-creatures    
21 Jonny Quest             Sleeper Killed, post GCA  
22 Gilles Habibullah Giles Cometeers/Jack Williamson       Sleeper Killed, post GCA  
23 Telzey Amberdon Telzey Federation of the Hub / James Schmitz       Sleeper Killed, post GCA  
24 D'Arbignal D'Arbignal James Schmitz         Sleeper Killed, post GCA  
25 Hannibal Gunn   Fan Fic (f)              
December 12, 2016
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Okay, that seemed to post okay. That's my spreadsheet (from a few weeks ago) that contained what I had guessed/figured out about the Hyperions. Just added Hannibal from further upthread, but there may have been some things that were corrected in snippets that are not included here.

Two notes--a * next to the number should show one of the core 5 during the fall of Hyperion. A (f) after the world shows it is not a real thing--it should be something that the author came up with as occurring in the future.

December 12, 2016
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kehcalb said
Okay, that seemed to post okay. That's my spreadsheet (from a few weeks ago) that contained what I had guessed/figured out about the Hyperions. Just added Hannibal from further upthread, but there may have been some things that were corrected in snippets that are not included here.

Two notes--a * next to the number should show one of the core 5 during the fall of Hyperion. A (f) after the world shows it is not a real thing--it should be something that the author came up with as occurring in the future.  

You should note that ALL of the Hyperions were Heavy-Worlders (i.e., the default spin-gravity on Hyperion was 2.5G for all the Hyperions). 

Pretty much all the boxes where you don't have positive knowledge to the contrary should say "Dead, Hyperion". That goes for any still-under-copyright property unless I've done serial-number-filing to make it pass (never mentioning Kim Possible, calling Speed Racer Velocity Celes, etc.).

December 13, 2016
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I figured WRT the Dead, Hyperion thing, but I wasn't putting an entry in unless it was confirmed somewhere in text or a Ryk Spoor post.

 

I thought maybe the thirdparty references were available in enough places now that it wouldn't be an issue to collate them, but maybe it's like how two unclassified documents can become secret when put together. If you like, I can go back in and try to cut out some of the more blatant references, especially WRT KP and SR.

December 13, 2016
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Okay, I could swear it had an edit button BEFORE.....

December 13, 2016
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kehcalb said
I figured WRT the Dead, Hyperion thing, but I wasn't putting an entry in unless it was confirmed somewhere in text or a Ryk Spoor post.

 

I thought maybe the thirdparty references were available in enough places now that it wouldn't be an issue to collate them, but maybe it's like how two unclassified documents can become secret when put together. If you like, I can go back in and try to cut out some of the more blatant references, especially WRT KP and SR.  

 

Oh, for a fanmade thing like this, or even just a private admission by me, it doesn't matter. I just can't use them in actual STORIES overtly without filing off the serial numbers.

 

What I was saying is that any character that *IS* still in copyright you can pretty much assume is dead, dead, dead unless I've gone to the trouble of doing that filing off first (as I did with Kim and Speed). 

December 13, 2016
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Hmm, I wonder why the forums always indicate the most recent post is at least 6 hours ago, even if I just posted. Unless that is something that just happens to me.

 

Thanks for the reply, BTW.

December 13, 2016
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kehcalb said
Hmm, I wonder why the forums always indicate the most recent post is at least 6 hours ago, even if I just posted. Unless that is something that just happens to me.

 

Thanks for the reply, BTW.  

 

No, it happens to me too. I'm not sure. I'll ask my web person if she knows.

December 15, 2016
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It strikes me if one wanted to do GCA fanfic, during Hyperion would be a great place for it. And/or AUs where different Hyperions survived the fall. What if instead of Marc, the Holy Grail has (X) on their side?

December 15, 2016
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It strikes me if one wanted to do GCA fanfic, during Hyperion would be a great place for it. And/or AUs where different Hyperions survived the fall. What if instead of Marc, the Holy Grail has (X) on their side?  

 

Yes, it's pretty much wide open for that kind of thing. And for people to write other fic where it's just exploring parts of the Arena itself. 

December 15, 2016
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Or the possibility raised in the latest book- fics that take place in prior cycles of human-ish First Emergents.

December 15, 2016
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ZeroiaSD said
Or the possibility raised in the latest book- fics that take place in prior cycles of human-ish First Emergents.  

 

Oh, certainly, the ancient eras are wide open, like the ancient eras of the Star Wars universe. Plenty to do there. 

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K/Oasis Abrams is also a reference to the character Oasis in the web-comic Sluggy Freelance written by Pete Abrams.

Oasis Bio

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K/Oasis Abrams is also a reference to the character Oasis in the web-comic Sluggy Freelance written by Pete Abrams.

Oasis Bio

First appearance  

 

Quite so; first name from her, second from her creator. Though she is not, herself, a Hyperion, just a reference. 

May 13, 2017
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It strikes me if one wanted to do GCA fanfic, during Hyperion would be a great place for it. And/or AUs where different Hyperions survived the fall. What if instead of Marc, the Holy Grail has (X) on their side?  

 

Additionally, of course, these are obvious scenarios for roleplaying in the Arenaverse. Choose different people for First Contact.

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kehcalb said
Okay, that seemed to post okay. That's my spreadsheet (from a few weeks ago) that contained what I had guessed/figured out about the Hyperions. Just added Hannibal from further upthread, but there may have been some things that were corrected in snippets that are not included here.

Two notes--a * next to the number should show one of the core 5 during the fall of Hyperion. A (f) after the world shows it is not a real thing--it should be something that the author came up with as occurring in the future.  

Oh, if you're still watching, D'Arbignal doesn't come from Schmitz' work, he's by Jeff Getzin.

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When you pointed out the connection between Maria-Susanna and Jim Kirk, I realized that Maria-Susanna was "Mary Sue", the origin of the self-insertion fanfic meme. (Compare to "Marissa Picard" from Next Gen fanfic.) So she's a thinly-veiled avatar of her author, whom the main fictive character falls in love with, and is traditionally hyper-competent and all-conquering.

Also, when Maria-Susanna is eating with Simon, she notes that his tolerance for spicy foods might be equal or greater than 'Sydney'. This appears to be a reference to Sydney Scoville, aka Halo, protagonist of the webcomic Grrl Power.  Since she was the protagonist, presumably she was a human.

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